Due to the requests and talk here's the much awaited art thread! I'd like to make this as open as possible with the exception of writers. If you use words we've got no place for you here! Visualists only!
With that said, I'll begin:
I'm Leif Rogers, my work can be found
here and here's the opening question:
"Do the modern trends in art effect you personally or are you following your own path?"
--note--
Disregard the question and start with whatever you please!
Opening image!
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Sic separo, sereno, sorpo
"Do the modern trends in art effect you personally or are you following your own path?
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Hey Leif! I'm not exactly sure what modern trends you're referring to but as an installation artist, I guess I would say yes to following modern trends! I would also say yes to mixed media! It opens up an expansive range of materials so that it enables artists to get more specific through media in terms of communicating through visual language. I think it's great that any media can be used!! Hopefully artists will use this wide open language to best express their ideas rather than using a material just because we can. I will always have my influences but I hope that I express my ideas in a way that is personal to me.
I just checked out the link to your work and I like it very much! Are you talking about loosing time working and all of a sudden realise you've been working for hrs? That's great when that happens, if this is what you're speaking of!! Sometimes it can be like pulling teeth! It doesn't really matter either way as long as you get to the other side, right??
Gees Boggy! I never knew you did artwork too! I like it!! Any favourite artists or writers? I have always found inspiration in books besides other artists. Probably more so with writers. They tell me a different way of communicating.
Writers: Ortega y Gasset, Machiavelli, Nietzsche, mainly Philosphers, yet A.A. Milne or de Exupery will fit in. Depends on the mood.
Painters: Venetian Masters, Impressionists and far beyond.
I hope I'm not telling you old news.... please forgive me if I am.. There's a French artist/poet/writer that has influenced many modern French philosophers such as Kristeva, Guarttari and Deleuze( sp??). His name is Antonin Artaud. Are you familiar with him?? I am not well versed with some of the older philosophers and should be!! The more I know, the more I realise I don't know!!! Totally Amazing ain't it!!
If I remember correctly Artaud sculpted very interesting caves in his barn, and he would constantly revise them. That's cool shit, if I'm tinking of the right dude.
Kind of a call out to the philosophy of the far east, reminiscent of mandalas in the sand. Same thought, that the process is greater than the finished work.
If he did that I don't know about it?? He spent 9 yrs. in many mental institutions and almost died in one due to malnutrition during WWI?? Perhaps you are thinking of someone else??
What mediums tits?
(revised): what total mediums do you use? Anymore than the one's listed in the works?
(01-06-2010 06:45 PM)Anonymous green peony Wrote: [ -> ]I'm not exactly sure what modern trends you're referring to...
Something like
this
Ultimately, I needed a starter and that was what popped in my head.
Caravano:
I ignore latin because, well, it's a dead language and let the dead bury the dead. With that said, latin pissing matches are my third hobby.
(01-06-2010 10:42 PM)Leif Wrote: [ -> ]Anymore than the one's listed in the works?
For the time being: oil and water-colour, but one of my Christmas present was Koh-i-noor Gioconda Art Set, will take up the charcoal and xit again.
First off, great piece, Leif, took a good look at the larger size image. Like a cross between a contour and a sketch with basic colour. You nailed just the right amount of detail so that things are easy to make out, with finer points merely suggestions. Keep up the good work.
As for trends, I don't really believe in trends in the art world. Any "trend" you see is only a small, small fraction of the artwork actually being produced.
(01-06-2010 08:06 PM)Caravano Wrote: [ -> ]Boggums I really dug this one.
http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=20...1003400871
Interesting combination of mixed mediums, but it really turned out well. What made you decide to use charcoal and crayon specifically?
Old Masters' choice of combinations. The third colour to be incorporated should be sanguine or red chalk.
Latin 'tain't so bad, generally speaking if you change a letter in a word, you get back* to your language of choice.
*or before
At least it wasn't in Sanskrit then I would obviously been trying to be an asshole.
(01-07-2010 07:31 AM)Absinthe Ben Wrote: [ -> ]Any "trend" you see is only a small, small fraction of the artwork actually being produced.
True, it all depends where you look but on that note each angle has its own trends. Look at Juxtapose. Juxtapose comes along and pimps art that fits their need. Artist, in turn, follow suit and create art for Juxtapose. Whether it is intentional or not isn't the point, these things happen and set the ball in motion. This is especially true if the trend is large enough to spawn that whole didactic thing. If that's the case we got a real situation on our hands. For example the past (at least I hope it's past) trend of "bad painting" with leaders being Elizabeth Peyton, Martin Kippenberger, etc.
If I had a dollar for every time I heard a painter say he was having a dialogue with Peyton, I'd be up to my neck in absinthe (mostly because I'd be trying to drown myself in drink).
(01-07-2010 07:31 AM)Absinthe Ben Wrote: [ -> ]As for trends, I don't really believe in trends in the art world. Any "trend" you see is only a small, small fraction of the artwork actually being produced.
There may not be trends in "production" per se, but there are certainly trends in "consumption", i.e. presentation and purchase.
It's true. Money can turn a trend in a matter of minutes, public be damned. Look at the YBA's. Those fools couldn't art their way out of a paper bag and yet, there they were...being art folk. Only person to really survive was Damien Hurst though. Stupid diamond skull...
On that note I did this after a night's drinking with Speedle.
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The damn thing is his if I can only get off my ass and ever get it to him (hinting at another night of wild drink *wink*)
what media is it?? It almost looks like it was painted on glass? The colours are fresh and pure! Are you using any oils sticks? I haven't painted in a long time though my bfa was in painting. What did you think of Michelle Obama's painting by Peyton? Seemed a political statement in her expression but am not sure of the artists intent?? What do you think?
Oil pastel.
For me, nothing of Peyton's goes past the superficial. She worships celebrity but can't justify her obsession past "they're famous". In short, she rides the bandwagon and somehow made it. Sounds bitter, I know but after attending her lectures at SAIC that's all I can conclude. During a QA period with her she was obstinate and superficial. Didn't answer any of the questions including "why do you pick celebrities" and then accused the students of "attacking her" for pressing her reasons for worshiping fame.
So if I were to guess her intentions I'd like to say the painting was simply riding on coattails. Everyone was doing it at the time and you couldn't throw a stone. In my grad exhibit we caught the press bug with one artist presenting an installation piece of Obama as Messiah. Press bastards completely skipped over the rest of us. Hail Obama!
Edit:
The above shouldn't mean that I don't see value in Peyton's work. There is--just not the kind the press puts out.